Am I really suposed to buy the whole "Conservatives are anti-abortion" argument?
November 22009
True conservatives want the Governmet to stay out of their bodies,dont they?
In that a clump of cells is the "Government’s job to protect" as if THATS conservative.
And if the technology to have abortions is available, is it not "conservatively" the citizens choice to use available technology as they see fit without interferece?
I can tell you that there are MANY conservatives believe in "killing" as long as you kill the right ones.
The rabbid anti-abortion argument has also been used many times by some conservatives who at times were capable of serious hatred.
Why all the confusion on this issue?
This has been my argument for some time now. They basically want economic freedom, but don’t want anyone else to have personal or religious freedom.
November 2nd, 2009 at 10:39 am
You’re buying the conservative "minimalist" lie. If they truly wanted government to stay out of peoples lives would they be voting to ban legal recognition for some people relationships and not others. It’s just more Con hypocrisy.
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November 2nd, 2009 at 10:54 am
It is true that NO ONE should tell another what to do with their bodies. But I still view the procedure as barbaric, and those who chose to go through it I do look down upon.
That’s just me and I couldn’t care less who dislikes me for my opinion.
**I, wouldn’t have an abortion. I would have the kid and put it up for adoption. But I can’t make anyone else feel the way I do. Some may look down on me for putting the kid up for adoption and that is their prerogative. Just like it is my prerogative to look down on someone who would kill their unborn kid.**
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November 2nd, 2009 at 11:22 am
I guess you have to ask yourself which Conservative? Some believe in Pro Life and others believe in Pro Choice. That is the confusion.
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November 2nd, 2009 at 11:39 am
It’s the "clump of cells" part that people have a problem with……..is that really all it is??
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November 2nd, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Try asking the conservatives this: Muder is a punishable crime, right? Abortion is murder, right? What should the punishment be for a woman who has an abortion?
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November 2nd, 2009 at 1:08 pm
"Conservative" Politicians don’t really want to see roe v. wade overturned, they use the abortion issue to win elections.
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November 2nd, 2009 at 1:41 pm
No confusion.
Conservatives are hypocrites.
This issue is but one of many that proves it.
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November 2nd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Some would argue murder is against the law.
At what point do you call this "clump of cells" a person?
I am pro life all the way!!!
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November 2nd, 2009 at 2:59 pm
This has been my argument for some time now. They basically want economic freedom, but don’t want anyone else to have personal or religious freedom.
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November 2nd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
They are anti-abortion because in 18 years, they will need that little rugrat to waste some A-rabs!
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November 2nd, 2009 at 3:32 pm
just because i have the technology to abort you, does not suggest that the government should not protect you from this insane thinking. it is one of the primary functions of government to do so.
no one has the right to impose their will on someone elses body (without their consent), even if they are very old or very young.
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p.s. what are any of us but a clump of specialized and organazed cells?
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
It’s called convenient morals.
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November 2nd, 2009 at 4:38 pm
I think they have exceptions to the abortion thing if their hookers and secret lovers get pregnant. Maybe that’s why they prefer young boys?
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November 2nd, 2009 at 5:13 pm
There are a lot of conservatives such as myself who are pro-choice. The abortion discussion is really not an issue though. The Republicans are pandering to the Christian right with it. It really has nothing to do with being conservative.
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November 2nd, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Conservatives are for individual rights. What is being lost in your syllogism is the definition of the individual. As far as the child is concerned it is only a "clump of cells" before you know that it exists. It is not a question of what one does with their own body, but what one does with a separate body with its own, unique DNA structure.
I’d posit the quality of individuality (and thus rights) to a fetus very early in its life. It has a heartbeat at three weeks, long before most people know they are pregnant, especially in cases where couples are not actively trying to become pregnant. Brain waves exist at six weeks. Fetal development is rapid.
And no, I am not against killing in any circumstance. They are several circumstances where I see killing as not only necessary but just. It is not because I am against killing that I am against abortion, but rather for the rights of individuals who are not able to defend themselves.
If you support abortion, you might as well move the "cut-off" date well past birth.
Like you said about the government, it has a few functions that us conservatives will agree to. Protection of private property, protection of the nation and protection of life being taken unjustly by others. This would fall under the last one.
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November 2nd, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Kill the babies. Adopt a baby already born.
Stop the population increase. Stop the religion BS and stop being stupid people.
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November 2nd, 2009 at 5:52 pm
At the very least the child should be protected once he or she is viable. I think surely we can all agree that the death of an 8 month old baby IS murder.
*about 1% of abortions are due to rape or incest
*about 6% are due to medical conditions
*about 47% of women that get abortions have had a prior abortion (so it’s birth control for them)
*about 93% are because the child is not wanted. Isn’t that a sad statement. Can you look your children in the face and say, I wanted you but not your little sister so I aborted her. People need to discuss options with these pregant women and also discuss post abortion stress syndrome
I think one of the real problems is that we don’t have a high value on human life anymore. That is a very sad thing to say about our society but it’s true none the less.
*I think the government should try to protect the unborn.
Funny that a woman can murder her baby but if another person does it while commiting a crime then it’s murder…. The Unborn Victims of Violence Act.
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