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hi. I need some statements or arguments that are pro-abortion or that are for abortion. this is kind of awkward but I need this for law class. thanks

I am pro-choice, not pro-abortion. Abortion is a rights issue and a women’s health issue. Women should have the choice of whether or not to carry a pregnancy to term. Women should not be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies – just as women should not be forced to terminate pregnancies. Having abortion legal cuts the mortality rate among pregnant women who seek them (illegal abortions were the number 1 cause of death among women in the US, prior to Roe v. Wade, they are still among the top causes of death for women in countries where abortion is illegal).

The people that say "can it live on its own" or that its a "parasite." Can a child magically live on its own after it’s birthed? or what about 1 yr old? or 5? or even 18? by that logic, any dependent minor should be legally permitted to be aborted. And parasite? all children are parasites. it costs close to 400,000 dollars to raise one. they are financially dependent until their 20s. can we abort them if they are 21 and still living in our basement, smoking weed that we bought them?

Who is the idiot that said morning sickness is a result of the mother’s body rejecting the fetus? And what? It’s trying to throw up the baby? LMAO, some of you people are retarded.

I already answered this question for ya, bro, but I’ll give it another go.

The "viable" or parasite argument only works for the same people who say that life begins at birth. I say that the heart is fully formed and detectable by 6 WEEKS gestation. That is less that 2 months pregnant. If something with a beating heart and a central nervous system is not alive, what is it? You are right. Children are NOT independently viable until they are much older than "just born." They cannot exist without help, just like within the womb. If you do not feed a baby, it will die. Relatively quickly, in fact. Dehydration of an infant can cause death in less than 10 hours. They cannot walk or talk. They cannot even turn their head under their own power. How are they any more viable than a baby in the womb? They aren’t. They still depend on the parents for food. Literally.

People usually claim they are "not for abortion" but then they go on to give you 50 reasons why it is better. I’m sorry, I do not agree. All abortions do not occur because the child will have a hard life. Many occur because the mother just plain doesn’t want a child. Every female I know EXCEPT ME has had an abortion and I have heard all manner of reasons for them, including "The father left me when I told him," "I didn’t want to have a baby" and "I didn’t know who the father was." These reasons sicken me and they are the REAL abortion statistics. All these rape, incest and failed birth control statistics, while valid, do not represent the real reason most abortions are performed in this country. Out of probably 50 women or more that I know or have known who had abortion, not ONE OF THEM was for any of these things. They were without exception the result of NOT USING BIRTH CONTROL. How do I know? I asked. You’re damn right I did. You have to remember that these statistics rely on self-reporting. Who is really going to say, "I’m having an abortion because I don’t want a baby" or "I don’t know who the father is"? No one. So they lie.

People keep trying to say that abortion is a legal issue, not a moral one. All I can say is that the people who say that have never seen the garbage cans full of aborted babies. Once you have seen something like that, you cannot see abortion as ANYTHING but murder.

EDIT: Terri, you go, girl. You are absolutely right.

because i can only think of con agruments….but i want to see the other side of the coin….thanks to anyone who answers…:)

Some pro-choice arguments are:

1. A fetus is a parasite that imacts the host’s health negatively. We wouldn’t force someone to carry a tapeworm for 9 months against their will.

2. The constitution says that nobody will be deprived of life or liberty without due process, but forcing a woman to carry a baby impairs her liberty and can threaten her life.

3. A fetus is not a sentient being. In reality, newborns aren’t sentient yet either, but you have to draw the line somewhere.

Some pragmatic arguments:

4. Many people feel that victims of incest and rape should not be forced to carry the baby.

5. Teenagers who become pregnant are far more likely to become a burden on society if they have the baby than if they get an abortion. Even putting it up for adoption, they often are forced or encouraged to leave school once they start to show.

6. Chidren born to undereducated underemployed single mothers are more likely to become burdens on society than children born to educated nuclear families.

7. Fetuses with congenital defects or mothers with substance abuse problems will have a poorer quality of life and are likely to become burdens on society.

8. The same political organizations that want to outlaw abortion want to curtail social program spending. If they get their way across the board, there will be millions of starving urchins roaming the streets of American cities.

I have to make a powerpoint on pro choice for school.
Yes, we did have to.

Here are some of my thoughts as a pro-choice individual that supports abortion rights.

It’s not hard to justify an abortion when you’re educated on pregnancy development and abortion procedures. Despite what many like to claim, a fetus or embryo is not a baby. And abortion is not murder, since you can’t kill something that has not been born. Sure, an embryo is alive, but so are my houseplants and so are the organisms in yogurt, but no one screams murder when I eat yogurt. An embryo is completely insignificant. It has no thought or feelings and definitely shouldn’t trump the rights of a living, breathing human being. It is insulting to women to say a ball of insignificant cells deserves more rights than we do.

I had an abortion at 5 weeks gestation. The embryo I aborted was about the size of a sesame seed and looked like a very tiny seahorse. I know what I did, and I know I didn’t do anything wrong. It was an unplanned pregnancy, and given my situation at the time it would not have been fair to me to continue the pregnancy and allow it to develop into an unwanted child I would not be capable of caring for. I did the responsible thing.

What I don’t understand is how anyone can oppose abortion, I have yet to hear a reasonable, factual supporting statement. I can only conclude people reach a pro-life stance through misinformation and/or ignorance. An embryo is not a child, and abortion is not murder, simple as that. To not support a woman’s choice is to not support women’s rights. A pro-life stance is offensive to women who would like to think you consider them a little more valuable than a blastocyst. Taking away a woman’s choice causes immense harm to women and children. Women either become forced to continue a pregnancy against their will, the equivalent of rape, or to acquire an abortion illegally putting their health and lives at risk. If they’re forced to continue an unwanted pregnancy you end out with an unwanted child who could very well face an unstable life of neglect and abuse. I value the lives of women and children, not those of embryos. I just see it as having my priorities straight.

You will need to know the difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion. Pro-choice is limited to the belief abortion is a woman’s choice, but doesn’t necessarily mean someone agrees with aboriton. A pro-abortion individual both supports abortion and women’s right to choose.

I have answered a few hundred questions about abortion on YA, feel free to look through them. Also feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Best of luck on your assignment!

the 2 condradict each other. Comments?

i asked myself that.. If a women aborts her baby at 20 wks (most states abortion is legal up to 24) its not considered murder but if someone kills that pregnant woman its considered double homicide.
So, if a pregnant women get an abortion they dont call it a baby but they call it a fetus but then if a pregnant woman gets killed they call it a baby… Hmmmm..

If its unwanted pregnancy they call it a fetus but if its a wanted pregnancy they call it a baby…
People like to mess w mother nature cause people like to play God where they can just make laws/rules about it.

Do you find anything similarities between a pill to treat a medical issue (impotence) and the decision of a would-be mother to end her pregnancy?

i’ve been befuddled by that since the first time i heard that argument.
ignorance or politics is all i can figure.

abortion is modern day child sacrifice. Rather than sacrificing it up to a god or idol, people are sacrificing a life unto their own selfish ambitions.

To "Heck if I know", your analogy is very wrong. Pro-choice is like pro-gun people saying they have a right shoot anyone who is an inconvenience to them, even though the person they want to kill made no choice to inconvenience them. In fact it’s the person with the gun who chose to make the decision (sex) to bring about this person who inconvenienced them (the baby).

the only argument I’ve ever heard for pro-choice is, "I should be able to do what I want."

It is a tricky one, not meant to be a pro/anti abortion question, rather a legal one. How is a fetus considered to be a part of someones body ? For one thing, it contains genetic material from another person. Doesn’t this make it its own body ? Which just happens to be relying on its host ? Consider this: abortion is allowed to 18 weeks. A surrogate is implanted with a viable fetus, with no binding legal agreement. The fetus grows to be the equivalent of 17 weeks old. She decides to have an abortion. Is it her body that is affected ?

No.
1. It isn’t her body the fetus has its own DNA and different than the mother’s body.
2. We have not problem regulating what to do with your body: We accept when to wear safety belts, what kind of food we can eat, all sorts of medical procedures are regualted, the list goes on.

Viablity according to Pro-choice is not valid either. They believe that at anytime during any part of the pregancy the woman can choose to end it without question or regualtion.

Look at the fight over the partial birth abortion ban and when the court rule it was consitutional it was case of sour grapes when they said it doesn’t matter. However, they expect all of us to forget the firestorm they raise when they bill was past.

If someone would seriously look at the numbers you find out the MARJORITY believes that abortion should have some kind of regulation, but the far edges of both sides keep pushing to the point where comprise is next to impossible.

i am writing an essay for abortion. i am not for or against it but i need to find out 5 arguments against it. please help me. i know there arent any good points to it so please dont say it.
i am writing an essay for abortion. i am not for or against it but i need to find out 5 arguments against it. please help me. i would only do it if it was BEFORE 6 weeks. but that is just me.

There are good points to it. That was a pretty one-sided thing to say.

i have an outline 4 pages so in 1- i wanna put its aginst relgion and a- b- c- d- i wanna give the arguments now what should i wrote on 2- give me a rson and arguments supportion that reson

The unborn are more than just a group of cells. They are infants who deserve the right of the same life, liberty and happiness we demand for ourselves. "[The zygote], formed by the union of an oocyte and a sperm, is the beginning of a new human being."

Keith L. Moore, Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology, 7th edition. Philadelphia, PA: Saunders, 2008. p. 2.

Growth in the womb is a rapid process; All systems are in place by week eight. An accurate understanding of prenatal development makes it impossible to argue that abortion is the mere removal of undifferentiated cell tissue or that the developing embryo is simply a part of the mother’s body.

The anti-abortion stance is often based upon the writings and declarations of the psalmist David. The following scripture is a song of praise to the Lord for His provision and blessings to the unborn. David acknowledges that the Lord and Him alone is responsible for our creation.

Psalm 139, 1 O lord, thou hast searched me, and known me.

2 Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, thou understandest my thought afar off.

3 Thou compassest my path and my lying down, and art acquainted with all my ways.

13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother’s womb.

14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.

15 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.

16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.

17 How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them!

Abortion is a serious sin against not only the unborn but against the Most High and Holy God, our Creator. It is a method of "birth control" that is sanctioned by the government and is genocide of the lowest order. While we condemn genocide as practiced by Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin and that practiced by the governments such as that of Rwanda, it is apparent that when abortion is condoned it is also genocide.

abor·tion (ə-bôr’shən) noun — is the termination of a pregnancy after, accompanied by, or closely followed by the death of the embryo or fetus; especially: the medical procedure of inducing expulsion of a human fetus to terminate a pregnancy. (Merriam-Webster’s Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.)

Abortion is one of the most common surgical procedures in the world, but the average person knows almost nothing of its gruesome reality. Year after year, it lurks in the shadows, quietly destroying almost 4,000 innocent human beings a day in the U.S. and 130,000 a day worldwide. In the U.S., this is happening because seven Supreme Court Justices decided that abortion was a constitutionally protected act. Without a vote, without public debate, abortion came in through the back door, never having to bear up under the weight of significant public scrutiny. Today, abortion is a billion-dollar industry which enjoys the support of very influential people in very high places. High schools and universities go to great lengths to graphically expose the dangers of smoking, drunk-driving and STD’s, but take a pass when it comes to abortion.

There are essentially two issues which must be resolved concerning unborn embryos and fetuses. The first is, "Are they human beings?" The second is, "Should they be recognized as persons under the law?" We’ve already established that there is no debate on the first question. It is a matter of plain, objective science. Embryos and fetuses are fully and individually human from the moment of fertilization on. If this were not true, if unborn children were not genetically-distinct human beings, there would be no need to even talk about rights of personhood.

There is a very real sense in which the need to answer this second question is, in itself, an absurdity. If you look up the word "person" in your average dictionary (we’ll use Dictionary.com), you’ll find something like this:

Person n. A human being.

A person, simply put, is a human being. This fact should be enough. The intrinsic humanity of unborn children, by definition, makes them persons and should, therefore, guarantee their protection under the law. For more than thirty-five years, however, this has not been the case in America. The situation we are left with is this. There is a huge and singular group of living human beings who have no protection under the law and are being killed en masse every day. Is that not astounding?! It is astounding, but not wholly unprecedented.

In short, it is government sanctioned murder and an abomination. Just as the prophets of Baal offered children to their god by burning them alive.

In Christ,

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