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		<title>What do you think about this statement concerning the abortion debate?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#34;I would like to persuade you that the abortion debate is all about a woman&#8217;s choice to have control of her body, not the baby&#8217;s right to live. Who should have their rights considered first? The woman or the baby?&#34;
Does it make sense? I am arguing from a pro-choice perspective and emphasizing that the abortion [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I would like to persuade you that the abortion debate is all about a woman&#8217;s choice to have control of her body, not the baby&#8217;s right to live. Who should have their rights considered first? The woman or the baby?&quot;</p>
<p>Does it make sense? I am arguing from a pro-choice perspective and emphasizing that the abortion issue is more of a civil rights issue rather than a moral issue. I am saying that it deals with a woman and her choice.<br />
<br />You should never abandoned something because a select few abuse it.  The truth is, at the time when most babies are aborted their brains aren&#8217;t even developed enough to make them smarter than an adult mouse.  I&#8217;m pro choice, very much so, but I am not going to say I&#8217;m for later term abortions when the baby is almost due.  That sick for obvious reasons.</p>
<p>The problem with the Extremists is that they do not know how to argue.  Usually, their argument comes from what they were told to believe by their pastor or priest, so they do not know how to argue with facts, but rather, from works of fiction like Pinnochio or the Bible.  </p>
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		<title>How long has the abortion debate been going on for?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just need to know this for a year 12 research task.
Many years, since Wade vs Row 1973 or close to that.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just need to know this for a year 12 research task.<br />
<br />Many years, since Wade vs Row 1973 or close to that.</p>
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		<title>what if you have  to do debate for abortion?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well me and my group in school have to do debate on for abortion.
but we dont really  not for it.  but its for grade so if you have any opinions on what to say it would really help.  thanks! no rude comments or I will report you.
I completely believe in abortion, so [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well me and my group in school have to do debate on for abortion.<br />
but we dont really  not for it.  but its for grade so if you have any opinions on what to say it would really help.  thanks! no rude comments or I will report you.<br />
<br />I completely believe in abortion, so I can help you. Here are some points you can make:<br />
Abortion is the only option for a lot of rape victims<br />
If some teenagers make a mistake, then this can be the only way to fix it.  I mean, it&#8217;s not that the mother wants to take away life, she wants to take away a life that is going to be miserable and depressing for the child because she is not ready for a child.<br />
The aborted fetuses help with stem cell research, which is REALLY important.</p>
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		<title>Can anyone explain something about the abortion debate?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why does no one ever criticize the women who are having the abortions? People will shoot doctors and bomb clinics, but these women are apparently guilt free. I&#8217;m not saying these women should be harmed, but shouldn&#8217;t they take some of the blame?
Don&#8217;t women have options? Can&#8217;t they place the baby up for adoption? Why [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does no one ever criticize the women who are having the abortions? People will shoot doctors and bomb clinics, but these women are apparently guilt free. I&#8217;m not saying these women should be harmed, but shouldn&#8217;t they take some of the blame?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t women have options? Can&#8217;t they place the baby up for adoption? Why do we never hear anything from the fathers of these babies? I don&#8217;t understand why so much hate is directed towards the doctors who perform abortions, when they are just part of a bigger issue. Am I naive? Would this make more sense if I were a woman?<br />
<br />My abortion had nothing to do with hate, guilt or blame, take it somewhere else. </p>
<p>Your naivete is made apparent by your generalizations.</p>
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		<title>If you were a U.S. citizen of voting age in the 1980’s, what was your stance on the abortion debate?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you were a U.S. citizen of voting age in the 1980’s, what was your stance on the abortion debate?
Did you think abortion should:
A) Be legal in all circumstances?
B) Be legal only under certain circumstances?
C) Be illegal in all circumstances?
Please provide your age/ gender, and if your views are the same as they were in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you were a U.S. citizen of voting age in the 1980’s, what was your stance on the abortion debate?<br />
Did you think abortion should:<br />
A) Be legal in all circumstances?<br />
B) Be legal only under certain circumstances?<br />
C) Be illegal in all circumstances?<br />
Please provide your age/ gender, and if your views are the same as they were in the 1980’s. Feel free to explain your position on the issue.<br />
Thank you for your time.<br />
<br />B)</p>
<p>This should be a Polls question.</p>
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		<title>I want to find videos that address both sides of the Abortion debate. Pro-life/Pro-choice?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I need to find short videos that somehow address both sides of the abortion debates. Anyone know where I can find some? I checked youtube already.
If These Walls Could Talk&#8230;addresses abortion issues from both sides.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need to find short videos that somehow address both sides of the abortion debates. Anyone know where I can find some? I checked youtube already.<br />
<br />If These Walls Could Talk&#8230;addresses abortion issues from both sides.</p>
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		<title>I want to find videos that address both sides of the Abortion debate. Pro-life/Pro-choice?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 10:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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If These Walls Could Talk&#8230;addresses abortion issues from both sides.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need to find short videos that somehow address both sides of the abortion debates. Anyone know where I can find some? I checked youtube already.<br />
<br />If These Walls Could Talk&#8230;addresses abortion issues from both sides.</p>
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		<title>abortion debate?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[i am debating in class tommorow on pro abortion that women should have the right to chose if they want an abortion my side is pro i need to make a opening statement that states the argument clearly and concisely it has to be two min long i need help on this its for health [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am debating in class tommorow on pro abortion that women should have the right to chose if they want an abortion my side is pro i need to make a opening statement that states the argument clearly and concisely it has to be two min long i need help on this its for health class and this is what i have so far please give me more info so i can finish this winner gets 10pts<br />
The right to terminate a pregnancy, are issues of life and death for women, not just mere matters of choice. Reproductive justice recognizes reproductive rights as basic human rights. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled, correctly, that women have the right to a personal, private decision on abortion. It is a woman&#8217;s right to her life that gives her the right to terminate her pregnancy. Women, regardless of age, social or marital status, have the right to have a safe, legal abortion.<br />
<br />SEE THE OPENING STATEMENT BELOW. SORRY TO WANDER.</p>
<p>Just a suggestion, but I might start off by pointing out that seeing a pregnancy to term is more dangerous than having an abortion, that men&#8211;who don&#8217;t bear any personal risk made the decisions, and mention that graveyards all over the world are filled with women who died during child birth.</p>
<p>Since you have asked for critisism, I would take out some of the more PC praseology. My reason being that phrases like &quot;terminate at pregnancy&quot; and &quot;reproductive justice&quot; tend to preach to the choir while pi**ing off Christians and conservatives to no end while just going in one ear and out the other of the people who are already on your side. Remeber, the secret to successful argument is to convince people to change thier opinions.</p>
<p> I&#8217;ll give it a try which you are free to use, take ideas from or throw away keeping your basic points. But, remember, your job is to change the minds of people on the other side of the debate. Those that share your view won&#8217;t take any convincing at all.</p>
<p>         OPENING STATEMENT<br />
Medically, the most dangerous thing any pregnant woman can do is to have the baby. From the dawn of time countless, faceless women have died anonymously in childbirth and been buried with little or any recocnition in stone fields filled with female corpses and graveyards which men built for them. </p>
<p>    Make no mistake about it. Carrying a baby to term is the most medically dangerous choice a pregnant woman can make. </p>
<p>Throughout history, men in a patriarchal society just presumed it was a women&#8217;s place to die or give birth. It was certainly not her choice to question the choices of Men in power. Roe v. Wade changed that. In Roe the Supreme Court found that there exists a &quot;zone of privacy&quot; that surrounds every single citizen male and female. And decisions made withing that zone are private decision to be arrived at by the person who not only bears the risk of pregancy; but, who also is forced to deal with the responsibilities of motherhood should she decide to bring the life within her into the world. No longer can men, who if unhappy with the results of thier brief sexual unions dictacte a lifetime of consequences to women while they convienently dissapear. No longer may the state and Church intude into the most intimate recesses and organs of a women&#8217;s body and dictate outcomes that they do not take responsibility for. The decision to excersize the Right to have an abortion can be the most agonizing decision that a woman may face. But, with abortion safe and legal, she has the choice to make it not only for her interests, but also for the interests of the child that she choses to carry in her body for nine months or chooses not to carry. Her decision is not easy, not without moral difficulty or ambiguity, or with out far reaching psychological repercussions. That is why it is so critical that this decision of such great importance be made by the woman who will bear the burden of her choice. It is not the decision of the anonymous, unfeeling state, or the father, who may or may not decide to see things through. She who bears the risk and carries the wheight also is responsible for deciding how to handle a pregnancy. No matter howerver ambigously unjust the consequences may be. The decisions leading to those consequences, as a matter of law, lie with she who will bear the ultimate consquences of the decisions she choses to make. The decision whether is be to bring the child to term or opt for another alternative, to parahrase Retired Supreme Court Justice, Sandra Day O&#8217;Connor, &quot;a husband cannot excercise the degree of control over a spouse that he can over a child.&quot;</p>
<p> Roe v. Wade places the decision where it best belongs with the person who&#8217;s body bears the risk and rewards of potential motherhood or the decision to avoid it.<br />
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 Oddly, it was not until medical science made it possible to safely abort a fetus that there was any choice for a pregnant woman to make.<br />
 Even more oddly, those who made the choice were not those who bore the risk. Abortion was prounced sacrilige and murder by the men of Church and the men of the State. Curiously, the decision was reached by men&#8211;who by the very dictates of biology would never suffer a single death from miscarage or even a single, &quot;normal&quot; of episode morning of sickenss from pregnancy.</p>
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		<title>What are some good questions to ask for an abortion debate?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My team is for it.
and I need questions for the oppising team.
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1) Why should one groups beliefs, often due to &#8216;religious&#8217; conviction, be considered more important then everyone else&#8217;s
2) Isn&#8217;t it the the Women&#8217;s right to choose and NOTHING to do with anyone else
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My team is for it.<br />
and I need questions for the oppising team.<br />
thanks!! =]]<br />
<br />1) Why should one groups beliefs, often due to &#8216;religious&#8217; conviction, be considered more important then everyone else&#8217;s</p>
<p>2) Isn&#8217;t it the the Women&#8217;s right to choose and NOTHING to do with anyone else</p>
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		<title>Could we simplify the abortion debate by agreeing to prolife/antilife and prochoice/antichoice?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Depending on the side you are on.  It would make the word salad so much easier to digest.  We could simplify it further by frontal lobe/antifrontal lobe to separate those that dont care about this from those that do.  I think the numbers would likely surprise many people.
the prolife calls the opposition [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depending on the side you are on.  It would make the word salad so much easier to digest.  We could simplify it further by frontal lobe/antifrontal lobe to separate those that dont care about this from those that do.  I think the numbers would likely surprise many people.<br />
the prolife calls the opposition antilife and prochoice calls the opposition antichoice.<br />
Twilight is the first for profrontal lobe!!<br />
<br />Great question. Since this is an issue that is used to drive voters to the polls on election day your question definitely has something to do with politics and belongs in this forum. </p>
<p>I have wrestled with this issue myself and come to the conclusion that it needs to be addressed. The fact is, the Envangelical Christian movement has made this a big issue and the elitist hypocrites leading the movement ( remember Ted Haggard?) drive Christians to vote Republican based on the belief that abortion is murder and democrats support abortion while republicans claim to oppose abortion and vow to overturn Roe v. Wade if the Christians will help them gain enough control over the government. </p>
<p>Even though 7 of the 9 supreme court justices were appointed by republicans ( only need 5 votes to overturn Roe v. Wade), they still believe their chief pharisees when they tell them that they have to go vote republican if they want to stop the infanticide. James Kennedy of Coral Ridge even ran radio ads in 2004 telling Christians it was a sin to not vote followed by ads telling them that it was a sin to vote for anyone who supported abortion rights. His scriptural justification for the claim was pure nonsense and yet I heard it repeated by sheepish Christians all year long.</p>
<p>Before I add my contribution to this debate and offer my answer to your question, I thought it would be good to explain why I believe we are at the pro-life vs. pro-choice point in the debate. It really is manipulation of the church for political purposes.</p>
<p>That said, I think we could easily change the debate to pro-choice vs. anti-choice if we could simply convince Christians to read their own scripture and recognnize that they have been deceived on this issue ( and many others).</p>
<p>Exodus 21:22-23 ( KJV) (vs.22) &quot; If men strive and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman&#8217;s husband will lay upon him; and he will pay as the judges determine. (vs.23) And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life.&quot;</p>
<p>The loss of an unborn child was not considered murder according to the old covenant of the Bible. Clearly, if an unborn child were considered a life according to the Bible this situation would have required a life for a life whether any mischief followed or not. It was not punished life for ife as murder was because God didn&#8217;t consider it murder. Anyone who says that he does is a liar. The proof is there to be seen.</p>
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