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…when anyone who has looked at the issue at all knows that it is a debate about whether a fetus is a "baby" at all during a particular moment in the 9-month period of gestation?

In other words, why do anti-abortionists think that they can win an argument about abortion by ASSUMING that a fetus is a human life, instead of making an ARGUMENT that a fetus is a human life?

I have no problem with that because life begins at conception.

Prevention instead of intervention?

Obviously this does not apply in the case of rape or incest, but I mean what responsible woman goes around having unprotected sex ?

Of course its better. Abortion should not be considered a means of contraception.

The problem is young, irresponsible women, drug users, partiers, etc.

They are not thinking ahead, or even thinking, and the religious right expects them to be good parents.

Unwanted kids grow up in poverty, creating a burden for the tax payer. They are often abused or neglected, and therefore grow up to be our nations most dangerous criminals. Its a double-whammy on society.

If you just can’t stand to type a slogan of the side you disagree with, you may answer with one slogan, rather than two.

Optional: identifying the LEAST effective slogans used, by both sides.

A person’s a person no matter how small…………..prolife

No one has the right to tell a woman what to do with her own body………..anti-abortion

I ask because last November’s election results seem to reflect a measure of ambiguity in the pro-life movement. Anti-abortion ballot measures in California and Colorado failed at the polls. And even with its strong pro-life population, South Dakota failed to pass an abortion ban for the second time in two years.

As always, I appreciate your input. Thanks.

I think people are finally starting to wake up to the fact that the pro-life camp isn’t as pro-life as they claim to be (as a whole) and that the whole anti-choice argument seems to be more about controlling women than caring about life. People are also starting to realize that pro-choice doesn’t mean pro-abortion and that there are in fact more issues on the table here than just abortion — issues like birth control and gender equality. So yeah, I think pro-life is on the way out (and it’s about time), but the movement’s death throes aren’t going to be pretty.

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I don’t get it. It’s _never_ going to be illegal. People debate about it day and night but honestly, abortion will never be illegal. The government/anyone has no right to stop a woman from doing what she wants with her own body.

The pro-choice people still even continue to debate about it, even though it’s still legal. Why bother?
Jason M. I disagree with you. It’s not murder.

Please don’t bring religion into this.
LG – No one is pro-abortion. It’s pro-CHOICE. It’s pro-oh hell no, the government can’t tell me what I can or can’t do.

Abortion brings out strong feelings on both sides of the issue. It’s less about the legality of it as it is about the morality of it. If you believe an unborn child is human, then abortion is murder. If you believe an unborn child is a mass of cells, then you not only don’t know anything about biology,but you’re also rationalizing.

Firstly, pregnancy sucks, but the the prolifers never mention this. They refuse to acknowledge that by denying a woman the right to an abortion they are subjecting her to nine months of pain and sickness.

Second, why is it that when people are talking about the woman’s right to choose and weather or not the man has a say, they never bring up money. If a woman has a child the father has to pay child support, if he’s paying for the thing, shouldn’t he have a say in weather or not the woman has it?

What do you people on either side of the issue have to say about this?

Is it right to kill someone because they are inconvenient or cost money? No. Perhaps we should extend it to get rid of old senile people too? They aren’t going to get better and they are just a drain on peoples time and money.

There are times, such as an ectopic pregnancy, where abortion is necessary but to kill a child because it is inconvenient is wrong.

We all know the risk when we have sex. Are all these abortions virgin conceptions? If you aren’t willing to pay the consequences for your action, then don’t do it.

An artificial womb would be device that can turn an embryo into a human baby without the use of a human female. If a female falls pregnant, she can elect to go through with the pregnancy or have the embryo extracted from her uterus and placed in an artificial womb. A third option is the option that females have now and that is to simply destroy the embryo. But if we had the technology to give the embryo life without forcing a female to go through pregnancy and child birth, what would this make a decision to destroy embryo?

They’ll probably claim that it’s a "life" and so you can’t kill it.
As usual.

My understanding of libertarianism is that libertarians want the role of government to be reduced and for people look after their own affairs without government interference. People who support the “pro-life” movement want the government to tell women what they can and can’t do with their own bodies so this is in contradiction to the libertarian philosophy, is it not? Don’t they have to be pro-choice by default?

Political ideals are complicated, and rarely does anyone ever fully believe in everything that their associated party or school of thought says.

Not all pro life movements are about banning abortion. Many of them are about educating women about what happens in an abortion, and how fetal developments at different stages. Many of them are about promoting other means of birth control. Many of them are about aligning the US abortion laws with everyone else’s, limiting abortions to first trimester or medical necessity (we are the only country that will do abortions as late as we do. As far as I know, all other abortion laws only go through the first 12 weeks).

You *can* support pro life movements, and still be a libetarian. You just cant support banning abortions or telling women they cant have one and be a libetarian.

Me and a classmate are conducting a debate on abortions. The Two of us are anti abbortion and the others are pro abortion. Do you consider abortion murder or do you think that having an option is ok?

WHY IS IT THAT IF YOU KILL A PREGNANT WOMAN, YOU’RE CHARGED WITH 2 MURDERS….
YET SOMEHOW, WE’RE STILL ALLOWED TO ABORT BABIES????
I am pro life, all that rubbish about "we should be able to choose if we keep the baby or not" is stupid. if God put that baby there, weather the mother and father planned it or not, aborting it is murder. that baby is ALIVE! so killing it SHOULD be illegal.

take a look at this pic, i think it proves that the baby is alive before birth (operation on an un-born baby) http://www.ndrl.org/samuelarmas.jpg